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Clearing things up

Journal Entry: Fri Jul 6, 2012, 6:56 PM
  • Listening to: Mitsuko
  • Reading: Howl's Moving Castle
  • Watching: Vocaloid PVs
  • Playing: MMD and UTAU
  • Eating: a nectarine
  • Drinking: orange juice


So recently there has been some drama about the Hetalia models and the "no yaoi" rule. I just wanna clear this up. Only a few of the models are affected by this rule. I found this out by scouring the readmes, using my own knowledge of Japanese and a few professional translators, I came up with a list of models that are and aren't affected:

America: YES (no R rated stuff)
Canada: YES
Cuba: YES
England: YES (but no R rated stuff)
Sweden: NO
Denmark: YES
France/Germany/Austria/Prussia: YES if you follow the English rules (which means you don't edit them) But NO if you follow the Japanese rules.
Greece: YES
Hong Kong: YES
Japan: YES
China: YES (no R rated)
Norway: YES (no R)
Sealand: YES (no R)
Finland: YES (no R)
Estonia: YES (no R rated)
Russia: YES (no R rated)
N. Italy:YES (no R rated)
S. Italy: YES (no R)
Iceland: YES (no R)
Spain: NO

Now to hana's rules. You all may already know that hana included two sets of rules with her models. One was an English readme and the other was Japanese.

In the English readme, she said that there is NO editing, NO redistributing, NO commercial use, and NO use in 18+ material such as violence (blood and gore) and sexual scenes.

In the Japanese readme, editing is allowed under certain conditions. And this is where the "no yaoi" rule comes into play. She made those two readmes because western users will not understand all of her conditions. So, to clarify, the "no yaoi" rule only affects you based on what set of rules you choose to follow.

Also, it shouldn't be called yaoi, since that violates all of the modelers' rules because yaoi involves intercourse between two men. Call it by it's correct name which is "shonen-ai".

I hope that this clears up some misunderstandings and that this pointless drama will stop.

EDIT:

I forgot to put Macao's in there.
Ok, so no violence/gore, sex scenes, but other than that, shonen ai is ok.

Also, to clarify, Sweden's readme mentioned NO YAOI but did not bar shonen ai. And Spain's readme was unclear, so I'll have someone look over it for me.

EDIT 2

So Spain's rules are the same as hana's Japanese rules. No yaoi for him.

Also, I was wrong before. The rules do cover shonen-ai. :/

EDIT 3

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:icondestinywing:
DestinyWing Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2014  Student Writer
What's the difference of Yaoi and Shonen-Ai?
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DannyLynn-Adams Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2015   Traditional Artist
Yaoi is sex itself between two guys, shonen-ai is romance or cutesy scenes showing love in a non sexual manner between two guys.
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:iconinekoninja:
iNekoninja Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2014
I'm still kind of confused on Hana's rules
So you can choose to follow the English or Japanese ?
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:iconchocosunday:
chocosunday Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That depends on which language you understand better. If you understand English better than use those rules, however the Japanese ones include certain terms that are not outlined in English.
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Sithlord43 Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2013  Student General Artist
So for Sweden, no yaoi and shonen ai? not even a bit? XD
I mean, It's canon that he likes Finland. right?
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:iconchocosunday:
chocosunday Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yep and yep. Doesn't make sense I know, but that's what his modeler said. :iconroco-55:
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:iconchocosunday:
chocosunday Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oops, I meant to say that :iconroco-66: also made it so yaoi/shonen-ai/yuri/shoujo-ai is not allowed with her models too. So that means Finland, Norway, China, Russia, Sealand, Estonia, and Iceland are on the "no love" list too.
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:iconsithlord43:
Sithlord43 Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2013  Student General Artist
Oh... Ok Thanks!
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:iconchocosunday:
chocosunday Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
no problem!
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:iconpinkgoku:
PinkGoku Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Student Digital Artist
*crying forever* on the latest version of America I downloaded, it said on the read me thing that you can't use him even for KISSES ! yeah, it said that the model doesn't have to be used for represent relations ships INCLUDING kisses or something like that...
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:iconchocosunday:
chocosunday Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Aww...Well some models like COLION's England and Sweden cannot be used in any gay relationships AT ALL.
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:iconpinkgoku:
PinkGoku Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Student Digital Artist
ah... too bad... well, for America, it's ALL relation ships, even "normal" ones...
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:iconchocosunday:
chocosunday Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Really? That's not what I read in his readme. It's the same for Ukraine too. But then again, it doesn't matter to me since I don't use America for stuff like that.
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XxXEvermore115xXx Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2012
If I edited N. Italy, by putting blood on him, can I still upload videos with him in it? It's not yaoi, but I'm getting confused with everything.. sooo yeah...
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:iconchocosunday:
chocosunday Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, you may not use him in acts of violence. Sooo...no blood.
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XxXEvermore115xXx Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2012
ISHNEEBAJIBE!!!! NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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:iconchocosunday:
chocosunday Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeeeah
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XxXEvermore115xXx Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2012
D: Now I can only personally show it, GRRRR!
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:iconxxxevermore115xxx:
XxXEvermore115xXx Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2012
They're against gays D:< That's mean D:< I'm fine with gays
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:iconchocosunday:
chocosunday Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No thats not to say that. Its only Sweden's model.
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:iconxxxevermore115xxx:
XxXEvermore115xXx Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2012
Well... Yeah, you got a point.
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:iconchocosunday:
chocosunday Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes..
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:iconxxxevermore115xxx:
XxXEvermore115xXx Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2012
Well. Ok then, had to get that off my chest :3
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:iconcomedystargazer:
ComedyStargazer Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I'm also learning Japanese! ^___^
It's a bit sad IF the Spain and Sweden model can't be use for shounen-ai. (I had no idea Yaoi meant gay sex and I don't go that far).
Maybe after I learn the language and try to ask the modelers themselves about the rules concerning that topic, so I'll know for sure. It might be awhile, though. It's kinda a bit disappointing since Sweden is an official gay character, but the modeler might not support shounen-ai for him. I really hope they do.
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:iconchocosunday:
chocosunday Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Actually, Famibun said that the no love rule was a rule we made up, not something she said.
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:iconcomedystargazer:
ComedyStargazer Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Really? Okay then.
What about Sweden?
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:iconchocosunday:
chocosunday Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sweden's modeler said in plain english, no Yaoi, and no boyxboy stuff.
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:iconcomedystargazer:
ComedyStargazer Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Okay. I see.
Thanks for letting know.
There's only one solution for that problem.
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:iconchocosunday:
chocosunday Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
yeah. you're welcome
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:iconcomedystargazer:
ComedyStargazer Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012  Student Digital Artist
:D
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:iconkonatathechao:
KonataTheChao Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
This is very smart, I mean, nobody thought of making a list, finding out about the readme and rule stuff, and putting up categories of what the models can't be used in, or anything... :3
But does that mean HetaOni can't be used for it, cuz there was something... :ohnoes:
Anyway, still, very good! You should... Actually, there is a really complimenting word on the tip of my tongue, but I forget. ^-^'
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:iconchocosunday:
chocosunday Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, it's only common sense....and HetaOni may be affected since scenes of violence are strictly prohibited by all modelers. So no blood or stuff like that.
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:iconkonatathechao:
KonataTheChao Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I see... Well, good job still!
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:iconbritish-baka:
british-baka Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012
asdfghjkl; thank you so muuuuch :'3
you deserve an award for this <33
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:iconchocosunday:
chocosunday Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
;w; You're welcome!
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LoveGunnerMoonGoddes Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012  Hobbyist Filmographer
O.O Uhhhhh, does blood count as R-rated? I wanted to do Hetaoni screenshots. Wasn't going to edit the models, just paint the blood on badly after the picture was taken.
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:iconchocosunday:
chocosunday Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah I think so.Those fans of Hetaoni may have a problem with the modelers if they want to use MMD for pics...
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OtakuMaster96 Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2012
I'm still confused!!!!!! Are we allowed to use these models for yaoi or not? I know that FamibunP allows it but what about the others?
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chocosunday Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well the only one that's forbidden completely is Sweden. The others don't forbid relationships but don't endorse them either. Hana doesn't forbid relationships like that as long as you follow the english rules. Kanaha doesn't say it's against the rules and zeze doesn't mention it as a rule.
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:iconotakumaster96:
OtakuMaster96 Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2012
So, what about Nonono-P's journal?
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:iconchocosunday:
chocosunday Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I believe he said that he didn't forbid shonen-ai either.
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:iconotakumaster96:
OtakuMaster96 Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2012
.......THAT MEANS THAT I DIDN'T HAVE TO DELETE MY PICTURES!?!?!?!?!?!?
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:iconchocosunday:
chocosunday Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nope. You can keep them up :)
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:iconotakumaster96:
OtakuMaster96 Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2012
*Cries tears of joy* Thank you!!!! *hugs*
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:iconchocosunday:
chocosunday Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're welcome :3
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:iconchiitehchibi:
Chiitehchibi Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
What you for clearing this up! I finally understand it!
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:iconmpandainsilk:
mpandainsilk Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2012
Oh thank you!I was so confused by the drama I pretty much sat there until it cleared up.
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:iconchocosunday:
chocosunday Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, I tried to help clear it up
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:iconmpandainsilk:
mpandainsilk Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2012
Now I can feel a bit more calm...hopefully.
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:iconchocosunday:
chocosunday Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
....yeah
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