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The definition of R-18 in MMD

Journal Entry: Fri Feb 1, 2013, 4:32 PM
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R-18 literally means Rated 18, as in "for adults 18 and up". This encompasses everything from gory and bloody scenes of death, injury, and killing to pornographic scenes of nudity and sex.

Some of you have had a little trouble with this term, so I put the definition of it first. This term is seen a lot in readmes for many models. Even so, many have gotten confused by this term and end up doing things with the model that are actually not allowed.

For example, with Hetalia models, almost all of them forbid violence, blood, and gore as well as anything related to or depicting sex, but all of that is shoved under  "R-18" and you don't know what that means. There are some of you who do know what that term means and continue to do this, but that is another matter entirely.

Moving away from Hetalia, there is the "hentai" in MMD. Yes, it is true that many of the things used to edit models come from a hentai game, but that's not the point. Putting aside the models made specifically for "R-18" audiences, most of the models forbid hentai. Sometimes, it is specifically stated by the modeler that this is not allowed.

Sometimes, the modelers put beside the term "R-18" that yaoi/yuri is also not allowed. First, let me make sure we are clear on the definitions of these terms:
YAOI is NOT kissing, hugging, and touching, that is called shounen-ai. It is literally unadulterated boy on boy sex.
YURI is the same thing. It is girl on girl sex.
That, ladies and gentlemen, is called PORN.

And that is also tucked neatly under the umbrella of "R-18".

Violence is also included. It's pretty self-explanatory really. Pretty much anything that is gory, bloody, and just plain revolting is usually forbidden. What modeler wants to see their creation covered in blood? Especially in other cultures, such images are a huge taboo.

Basically, R-18 is anything that would warrant an "R" or above rating if it were in a movie.

Now that you know what it means, you should at least endeavor to respect the wishes of the modelers. Do read the readmes, and if you cannot, translate them. Even google translate can help.

If you have doubts about whether or not what you're doing is right, then don't do it, or try to find a way around it. Everything will be better that way. :D

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South-Kun Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2013
R-18 on MMD? That is disgusting. I thought the creator of MMD forbade that.
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chocosunday Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
well while nudity is ok in some cases, hentai is totally different. the creator did not forbid it anyway.
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R-Johnson Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2013  Professional Artist
Is this a site of Puritan prudes?
Are you all 12yrs old?
Is your education bereft of basic art history?

Please don't ever go to a metropolitan museum, you may be exposed to boobies!

Are you so morally superior to judge what pornography is when the judicial courts can't.

Artists are the first people to complain about censorship, yet you are the censors.
Enjoy SOPA, because you are the very model of despotism.

If you are so chaste as to be offended by nudity then don't look, but don't stop others, that's oppression.  

Your "intellectual property" is a cartoon, not a work by a grand master.

If you don't want others to "abuse" or modify your work, keep your narcissism in check and don't post it. Keep it to yourself and refrain from  showing off, boasting and looking for some peer approval. 

Don't share so others, who may learn from dissecting your work and will never have the opportunity to surpass you. Instead make a video tutorial showing how smart you are, remember to click fast. It's all about self-love at the expense of the community.

"What modeler wants to see their creation covered in blood? Especially in other cultures, such images are a huge taboo."

To say this you must really have a very limited understanding of sociology, history and art.

You are making up fictitious examples to fit your agenda.

Stay away from Macbeth, Julius CaesarChristianity, Renascence Masters, Robert Mapplethorpe, Frida Kahlo, the Aztecs, Haitians, Egyptians ...

Google "blood images in art history".




I had a great deal of respect for artists, mmd has brought out the worst.
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chocosunday Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sorry but it is very rude to make assumptions about people. The reason why r18 material is not allowed with many MMD models is because it was not the original purpose of the model. Many people illegally edit the models without the consent of the modeler to portray erotic scenes and the original modeler doesn't accept that. They have the right to do what they want with their creations. Forgive me, but I am quite sure you do not know them. I bet that they appreciate and admire artistic nudity as much as any artist. 
Also, you are arguing ad hominem my good sir or madam, this means that you are making FALSE assumptions about me based on a piece of literature, for I am an artist beyond MMD. I ,in fact, appreciate the classical pieces of art in which the human body is portrayed in a beautiful and meaningful way. I would ask you not to attack my knowledge of culture and the arts based on something as small as a piece of software. Besides, this journal is quite old. You must have  lots of time on your hands to dig this up and and attack me about it. Please at least try to know what you are talking about before you rant on someone for what they say. Thank you and have a nice day.
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R-Johnson Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2013  Professional Artist
>Sorry but it is very rude to make assumptions about people.

That's exactly what you were doing, with your pedantic prudish rant.
Who made you the morals police? 
It's up to the original artist to litigate "illegal" modifications to his work, not some busybody repeating trite "rules" that are attached to every model file.  If you could read original Japanese, you would know this. You say you do, but are compelled to reiterate it.

If these modifications and immoral situations people put these figures in so egregiously illegal, why don't we hear of court cases and huge monetary  settlements, instead of the proliferation of videos on Youtube?

>you are arguing ad Eminem (sic)

Indeed I am, by stating it's not your place to be pontificating on moral turpitude.
Your perverse sense of prudishness, along with your attitude of moral superiority is ridiculous, all because you took it upon yourself to educate the masses.  The line about "...taboo in certain cultures..." was so completely wrong I could not help myself from laughing out loud.  Assumptions about a person knowing nothing about sociology, cultural studies and art history is not a large step when they say something like that. I did not want anyone to remotely believe this was true in any way.

>Besides, this journal is quite old. You must have  lots of time on your hands to dig this up and and attack me about it. 

I'm so new here I'm reading everything to get acquainted with the software and techniques.
When I saw something so unabashedly self serving I had to comment.

I won't waste your time anymore, I'm sure you have much to do with your lawyer filing warrants for unauthorized color changes to your cartoons..

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chocosunday Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well I was ranting about hentai in Mmd which is porn in cartoons. Not art. Porn is not art by my definition ,I dont know about you. Creating pornographic images with their models is highly insulting to their creators. If you take issue with that, I'd ask you to take it up individually with the modelers not me. I don't create the rules, they do.
I wasn't trying to be rude okay? I meant hominem. not eminem.I would like you to stop insulting me please. I have done nothing  to you. in fact I have never met you. I will not make assumptions about you because I don't know you so i would ask you not to attack me please. 

This issue is at large with other people. Recently there was a huge blow up with several modelers who were upset at their models being stripped naked and posted on the internet. I posted this journal to give my opinion on the matter.

The purpose of journals in the first place is to give opinions, so it doesnt matter if you like it or not. I'm not going to remove this or block you like  coward would. 

I am sorry if you think those things about me but i believe that I should make myself heard.
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VLunarFangV Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Some readmes are just untranslatable gibberish. What now?
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chocosunday Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If you have Japanese locale on your computer, then they won't be gibberish.
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VLunarFangV Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's one of the first updates I installed when I installed Windows 7. Still unreadable and not because I'm lacking in my Japanese.
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chocosunday Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Then that means the person posted the link to the particular model without their computer being in Japanese locale.
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VLunarFangV Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So I guess if I ever tried this sort of thing, I shouldn't do it with a model whose readme is well... unreadable.
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TheJester5T33LC00K13 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Too true. I've only been using MMD for a few weeks and I thought this would be pretty damn obvious. Yet I still see people doing stuff like this, after supposedly becoming a "professional". It's just... Pfeh, I'm not gonna allow myself to go into rant-mode ^^"
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chocosunday Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah...I thought R-18 was obvious too, but apparently not. People think that just cuz they've been into MMD for a while, that the rules don't apply. That is not true.
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TheJester5T33LC00K13 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Exactly :nod:
I mean, I'm a noob and I get that.
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EdelweissTheFlower Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Porn in real life is gross enough... But on other people's work? *throws up* I find it just plain disgusting. :T It just doesn't look right no matter how you look at it...
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chocosunday Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, MMD porn is disturbing.....
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HikariDawn016 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That is soooo true... Especially the thing about yaoi and yuri
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chocosunday Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah...most people don't know it, but yaoi and yuri are both porn....
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HikariDawn016 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, I get quite annoyed at it. Yaoi and Shounen-ai are two different things, same goes for yuri and shoujo-ai
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chocosunday Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah.......Attention Fangirls/boys: Yaoi/Yuri is PORN. :I
They are different from shonen/shojo-ai but still related.
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Teleway Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
Ugh...Just put 'MMD Mature' into the search and there will be models who have the "no r-18" rule in there with all sorts of disturbing edits....

And ugh...I hate seeing so many Hetalia pictures with depressed this and omgHetaOni!noob that.....The creator of the show made history light and cute for a reason~
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chocosunday Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah I know it's quite disgusting. Many people have asked me about R-18, and I assumed that they'd know what it meant...but apparently not.

Me too! It's disturbing and wrong. ><
Hetalia is a parody of the world, not gay orgy of the world, or massacre of the world. :I
And people wonder why hana closed her site off from the overseas community.
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Teleway Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
Yeah....And the whole "I don't like to read" is not an excuse. There's a difference between illiterate and lazy. I mean, they could have looked it up a LONG time ago, but people are just silly. XD

Exactly! I hate seeing all these "Well they MUST be gay rapists because the show is mostly male!" pictures. Hello! MANY shows, movies, books, etc. have mostly male characters! Then again, you could have a straight male character who's married to a lovely female character and has children and people still will throw them at some other male character just because "It'z so kawaii desu!" Give me a BREAK! When it comes to violence...it's annoying seeing ones of oh...Italy or some other sweet character all insane, blood-lusty, depressed person! I wish I could remove those pictures. A little bit of suspense is okay, but not to the point they're out of character.

I just wrote a journal regarding Roco. Now, my Japanese is crap but from what I could translate, all her models will be for Japanese users from now on. (Thank YOU Facefail!)

Sorry for the wall of text. ^^; I get carried away sometimes...
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chocosunday Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ikr? Seriously! People need to read readmes. They are called README for a reason!

I totally agree with all of that. I don't like shonen-ai/yaoi unless that is the main focus of the story. And poor Italy! He's so cute and sweet, he'd cry at the sight of blood. And yeah...totally.

D: And she just made a France model too ;n;

Lol that's ok ^^;
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Teleway Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
I know! Laziness isn't an excuse and basic translators can help!

Yeah...

I know! And this one was supposedly editable, too!
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chocosunday Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah! I always try to read the readmes when I get the model. It's only respectful to the modeler.

Omg. ;w;
I wonder if my Japanese is good enough to pass XD
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Teleway Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
Yep~

I can speak it easily and read it ok. Write it? Uh....That's where I fail. XD
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chocosunday Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Lol me too XD
I keep messing up the grammar :P
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yashagirl8D Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
I assume people are still making MMD porn? :L -shakes head- Why? MMD wasn't made for porn! It's called Miku Miku Dance not Miku Miku Porn :L
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chocosunday Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, but it's not as common as the violent pictures are. Making MMD porn is just as pathetic (if not more) as watching hentai in my opinion.
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yashagirl8D Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
Yes, it really is XD I've seen SO many gory pictures .. I have a strong stomach but it gets so annoying after awhile eAe
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chocosunday Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah...I'm not a fan of gore as much as I'm not a fan of hentai.
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yashagirl8D Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
Yeah I understand owo
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